Neighbors ? Cascade Siskiyou

Cascade Siskiyou National Monument, Jenny Creek, Jackson County Oregon

Still not convinced? Here is a friendly final note from a friendly BLM "neighbor" when after we re-dug a 100 year old ditch in 1990. A small leak occurred that posed no risk of damage to anything even if it did "breech". This letter was sent after the ditch was indeed repaired, (had they stepped out of their truck and looked) much more improved from the older ditches condition and has had no problem since.

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The point we make here is the tone of which your public "servant" and "neighbor" takes on when you become targeted within his "authority". People, you don't realize the monster until you've dealt with it. I could and may list many more examples.

Now listen to the tone when they want something..

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Just sickening.

All of those who have dealt with BLM, know they blow up everything you do in every small infraction; and threaten not always in written form.

Always it is "trespass!" And "irreparable permanent degradation!" Or such to that extent.

When it is our land also.

When their controlled burning gets out of hand, or over logging causes real problems, do we run up and threaten to take their homes away and means of lively hood?

Or charge those sorry little pathetic public servants "double" the costs incurred by the "United States" doing the work!

What is it going to take to wake up the representatives of this country?

Here the Declaration of Independence and in the Constitutional Debate defines this type of non deligated power and bureaucracy, department or "office" clearly as a tyranny in government:

The 10th Grievance of the Declaration of Independence (defining Tyranny in government) :

"He has erected a multitude of new offices and

sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance".

See Constitutional Days Debate with regard to "departments" and "delegated powers", Go here and do a page word search for "departments" and "delegated".

MR. JAMES MADISON: "....The honorable member asks, Why ask for this power, and if the subsequent clause be not fully competent for the same purpose. If so, what new terrors can arise from this particular clause? It is only a superfluity. >>> "If that latitude of construction"<<< which he contends for were to take place with respect to the sweeping clause, there would be room for those horrors.

But it gives "no" supplementary power.

It only enables them to execute the "delegated" powers.

If the "delegation" of their powers be "safe", no possible inconvenience can arise from this clause.

It is at most "but" explanatory.

For when any power is given, its delegation necessarily involves "authority" to make laws to execute it. Were it possible to delineate on paper all those particular cases and circumstances in which legislation by the general legislature would be necessary, and leave to the states all the other powers, I imagine no gentleman would object to it. But this is not within the limits of human capacity.

The particular powers which are found necessary to be given {439} are therefore delegated "generally", and particular and minute specification is left to the legislature...

.."When the honorable member objects to giving the general government jurisdiction over the "place" of their session, does he mean that it should be under the control of any particular state, that might, at a critical moment, seize it? I should have thought that this clause would have met with the most cordial approbation.

As the "consent" of the state in which it may be must be obtained, and as it may stipulate the terms of the grant, should they violate the particular stipulations it would be an usurpation; so that, >>>"if"<<< the members of Congress were to be guided by the "laws" of their country, none of those dangers could arise.

Mr. HENRY replied that, if Congress were vested with supreme power of legislation, paramount to the constitution and laws of the states, the dangers he had described might happen; for that Congress would not be confined to the "enumerated" powers.

This construction was warranted, in his opinion, >>>>by the addition of the word<<<<

>>>> "department"<<<<,

at the end of the clause, and that they could make any laws which they might think necessary to execute the powers of any department or officer of the government. (APP Note: A very Important Warning)

Mr. PENDLETON: Mr. Chairman, this clause does >>>"not"<<< give Congress power to impede the operation of >>>any part<<< of the Constitution, or to make >>>any regulation<<< that may

>>> affect the interests of the citizens<<< of the >>>Union at large.<<<

But it gives them power over the "local" "police" of the "place", so as to be secured from any interruption in their proceedings. Notwithstanding the violent attack upon it, I believe, sir, this is the fair construction of the clause.

It gives them power of exclusive legislation in any case within that district. What is the meaning of this? What is it opposed to? Is it opposed to the >>> general powers of the federal legislature,<<< or to those of the state legislatures? I understand it as opposed to the legislative power of that state "where it shall be". What, then, is the power? It is, that Congress shall exclusively legislate there,

in order to preserve {440} serve the police of the place and their own personal independence, that they may not be overawed or insulted, and of course to preserve them in opposition to any attempt by the state where it shall be this is the fair construction. Can we suppose that, in order to effect these salutary ends, Congress will make it an asylum for villains and the vilest characters from all parts of the world? Will it not degrade their own dignity to make it a sanctuary for villains? I hope that no man that will ever "compose" that Congress will associate with the most profligate characters. (APP: If this was not such a sad statement, it would be funny)

...With respect to the necessity of the ten miles square being superseded by the subsequent clause, which gives them power to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof, >>>I understand that clause as not going a single step beyond the delegated powers.<<<

What can it act upon? Some power given by this Constitution. If they should be about to pass a law in consequence of this clause, they must pursue some of the "delegated" powers,

but can >>> by "no means" depart from them,<<<

>>>>or arrogate "any new" powers;<<< for the plain language of the clause is, to give them power to pass laws in order to give "effect" to the

">>>"delegated"<<< powers"."

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