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Klamath Basin Water Rights Adjudication;
John
Locke 222:
The reason why men enter into society
is the preservation of their "property"; and
the end while they choose and authorize a legislative is that there may be
laws made, and rules set, as "guards" and "fences" to the properties of
all the society, to limit the "power" and moderate the "dominion" of every
part and member of the society. For since it can >>>"never"
be supposed to be the will of the society that
the legislative should have a power to destroy that which every
one >>>designs to secure
by entering into society, and
for which the people submitted themselves to
legislators of their own making:
"whenever" the legislators endeavour
to take away and destroy the "property"
of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under
arbitrary power, they put themselves into a "state
of war with the people", who are thereupon absolved from
"any farther obedience", and are left to the common
refuge which God hath provided for all men against force
and violence. Whensoever, therefore, the legislative shall "transgress" this
fundamental rule of society,"
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Klamath Adjudication
Foul Proceedings
The Klamath Falls Basin Adjudication
process in Klamath Falls Oregon has been bringing out water thieves of every
kind, the state having let attorneys into the mix which simply twist water
laws without respect for Justice or regarding the Historical use within the
Klamath River Basin. Sadly, it is turning the Klamath Basin Adjudication
process into a sick joke placing Interpreted Law above written Law and Justice,
and Court Procedure above Fact.
To assist Klamath Falls water users and help those within the Klamath
River Basin that are having to fight against attorneys on their own, this
site is presented to inform and educate on how to locate land and records
to establish your water rights claim:
Attack on Klamath Basin
Water Rights
The federal government, state government,
local water boards, crooked corporations and socialist environmental groups
are taking methodical steps to take and take control of your ranch water.
In an unprecedented violation against
ranchers, farmers and property owners, these groups have financed a wave
of attorneys to use procedure to take away your land value, water rights
and indeed your land.
John Locke:
Samuel Adams
- Rights of the Colonists
Corruption
The Electric Corporations are laying down
false claims;
This on water historically shown they have
not used by USGS water gages; Simply to take water away from rightful users
to increase the water through their own turbines;
State Corruption of Oregon
Water Laws
See 2nd and third column at right:
State attempts to take water rights through the Klamath Adjudication process.
Theft
The irrigation districts are attempting
to create a situation of skimming rights off of each irrigator using the
words "fair use", to get more water to sell to others at a higher rate or
to sell out to the government or to corporations.
Proving they are as much a crook as the others.
They as the others have contested others rights not knowing anything about
many of the people or rights they contested, nor had any interest or use
of the water they contested; simply to make people prove their rights.
Manipulation
The Klamath Indian Tribes are doing the
same for a quick resale of the water to corporations, government and irrigation
districts in the future and as a future trading pawn.
Coercion
Environmentalists are attempting to get
the government "classify" "good" farm land possessing valuable
vested water rights as "marginal" farm land, so to
get the people to sell their land and water rights at cut rate as willing
sellers to the federal government so to get control of the land
and water and keep it out of the hands of the citizens.
Using Taxpayer money though "right offs" and Tax exemption status being
paid by the farmers and ranchers, against the ranchers.
A Better Way
*** A better way would be instead to simply
remove zoning restrictions that have been keeping the farmer from
selling his land at market determined parcel sizes so that
the farmer can benefit from his land and water rights; and in turn more
people can acquire and benefit from the land and water rights.
Something that the County should do.
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Ever wonder who will benefit most by having more water stay in the Klamath
River?
The Electric Companies by far; Environmental special interests organizations
a close second profiting by the turmoil.
Who else is financing all these attorneys and pushing the contestments?
Where else is the money to pay these high profile attorneys coming from?
A Stacked Deck
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By forcing you, an irrigator, farmer
and rancher into:
1.) fighting through procedures and attorney and legal terminology you
have very little knowledge about and where interpretation of the law has
been corrupted to be greater than the original intent, you will either have
to take your chances fighting through the stacked deck or
2.) hire an attorney for 350.oo + an hour.
Planned Outcome
The two outcomes for Farmers and Ranchers
in the Klamath Basin water struggle are obvious:
1.) The first choice, you stand
to loose a good portion of the water you now use.
2.) The second choice you may keep
some of your water, but may, in time, loose your ranch or farm trying to
pay the attorney bills.
Farmers, Attorneys, Judges and State Administration
The idea that this legal procedure
is friendly to those who are not attorneys is a farce. If you do not know
procedure, the attorneys will railroad you with their tactics and the judge
will not assist you unless you ask, and at that, only if you ask or know
what or how to ask, and then the help is bare minimum, allowing important
areas to slip by during the hearing and thus allowing the attorneys to conceal
information that will make your case.
The conditions are such to set the
stage for a water war buffered only by a State Water Resources Department
that can only see numbers, and have not even researched their own archives
to bring out records of the past, relying on your own ability to do research
over a one hundred year period of time.
The judges, though required to know water law, have no understanding of
vested rights that are under common law and will remain so after the adjudication.
An adjudication that must respect and protect vested water rights and
only determine beneficial use.
The Water Resources Department has not been given the power to redefine
the vested right, only to determine use.
Attempt of the State to Assume Undelegated
Powers
But the State of Oregon Water Resources
Department is now part of the problem:
And if you made a mistake 12 years
ago not knowing the weight of your words at that time, every word you did
not understand, record or map you did not really look over in context with
the past, these will be used against you.
Not only by the contestants, but by the State Attorneys.
Did not know you actually had riparian rights?
Sorry!
If you did not claim them, the state will attempt to say that you lost
them, even if you have been using the water for riparian uses since before
1909 and need them to water your cattle along the banks of your stream.
This is NOT How the original Law was written,
BUT the state is using the "FEE" loophole to TWIST
the meaning and take away your water rights that you actually have.
The Original Oregon Law states clearly that if the water has been used,
your right will not be voided or set
aside!
The State "Interprets"
the law incorrectly; and indeed that is how they present their ability to
subvert the plain language of the law.
They say that the fees they have asked are "not unconstitutional";
But the fees or time for which to pay them do not precede the "purpose"
for the Adjudication;
And that purpose is clearly written
in Oregon Law: The Purpose of the Adjudication is to "Protect Valid
Vested Water Rights".
Who Will Profit
So who will profit?
Pacific Power and Light (now Scottish Power), irrigation districts and
their bureaucracies, so they can lay more claim on your water, so they can
further develop and make money on water that was meant to continue development
of your farm and ranch;
As I continue this site, having
been through the procedure of contesting and now being contested by people
who simply wish to take that which they do not own nor in the past used,
I will present actual case files that will show how these government attorneys,
corporate attorneys manipulate the courts steal water, how courts stack the
deck and state attorney turn a deaf ear.
Many of these files can be Reviewed online at http://www.ferc.gov, Klamath Project case Docket #
2082 on Fall Creek Power House Claims, Fall Creek a tributary to the Klamath
River, on the Oregon California boarder, regarding Spring Creek water and
USGS gage reports.
Find Your Water Right Records
Some Helpful
Notes:
Look for patents in your County
Records by searching back to the original owner - BUT DO NOT
STOP THERE !
Also Look for the patents online on the Bureau
of Land Management (BLM) web site GLO Records at: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Default.asp? or (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) by entering Section, Township
and Range of your properties legal description and or name if
you have it of the patentee under their search.
Write down the numbers given there to help
the Archives find your Land Entry Files for that patent .......
THEN: Call 202-501-5395 for operator or Mary Francis
ext. 327 or write The Washington DC Archives:
OLD MILITARY AND CIVIL RECORDS (NWCTB-LAND),
TEXTUAL ARCHIVES SERVICES DIVISION,
NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION,
700 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE NW,
WASHINGTON, DC 20408-0001
and have them send you the forms for getting copies of the "LAND ENTRY
FILES" for those patents, you will need one form for each patent you want
the files to.
*** NOTE!!!!!! >>>>
If will need the records CERTIFIED as a "True and Correct Copy" : Make sure to tell them! -
As this is a different form and they will not change the request over the
phone. If you send in the wrong form and then request for the information
to be certified, they will destroy the old form with your credit card information
- without telling you - and send you the new form; and the process will start
all over again loosing much time!!!
SAVE the Reference
Number in the
top left hand corner of the form - you will need this number to trace each of your requests from the archives.
You will then have to mail the white portion of the form with request
to pay for the search by credit card or by billing you to:
TEXTUAL ARCHIVES SERVICES DIVISION,
NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION,
700 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE NW,
WASHINGTON, DC 20408-0001
A Postcard will be sent to you with
a MASTER
NUMBER they
will use to keep tract of the progress of your order -NOTE: this number will differ from
the number in the upper hand side of your form.
For Inquires on your requested
forms after they have been sent CALL: 301-837-2000
This will arrive at the TRUST FUND
section of the archives that will process the order and send the request
back to the Archives research section who will do the search. Trust Fund Phone
is 202-501-5170.
The Archives Search will be
done by the office of George Shanner (sp) 202-501-5385 Ext. 260
Allow 60 - 90 days, so start
early; If your case is already underway ask for an extension in time
to receive these records or if the time for records is past; the hearing in
Salem has already taken place; or the case has been sent to the Water Rights
Adjudicator: Still Send them asking for the Adjudicator or hearing
panel or both to "ask that the record be reopened" to accept these records and to
take "Judicial Notice" of these records.
These files will tell the improvements
done by the patentees to receive the patent, do not be discouraged if a ditch
is not mentioned - if there are crops or clover and other that required irrigation
to grow - This means they were irrigating and all that was
needed to deliver the water was present.
Stay tuned 1/1/2004. RT
The Klamath Basin Adjudication, Klamath Falls Water Rights Adjudication
and Federal Energy Commission Re Licensing report.
The time has come to reduce the Federal Government and its burden on this
free country, find out how.
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STATE OF OREGON
ATTEMPTS TO TAKE WATER
USING THE ADJUDICATION AS THE MEANS
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To understand HOW, the state plans
to do this, here is some history and Law that you may not know of; that
is valid today and pertinent to all VESTED
WATER RIGHTS.
Vested rights, remain under the LAWS, and possess the POWERS
of their WATER RIGHT at the date the right was FIRST APPROPRIATED.
Oregon Supreme Court Ruling:
" Reports of Cases, Volume Decided
in the Supreme Court of the State of Oregon", Volume 114, March 24,1925
to June 1925, Page #116:
"....Water and Water Courses
- Title to Land Obtained "SUBJECT" to "LAWS PREVAILING".
(#26): "Those obtaining title
to land take "SAME" subject to "LAWS THEN PREVAILING" "RELATING TO
THE APPROPRIATION" OF "WATER" "
So the statement that the state
owns all the water in Oregon, is not quite correct; Unless you wish to accept
"Ex Post Defacto" laws in either civil or criminal cases;
Black and Pomeroy Treatise
on the Law of Water Rights 1893 offers
relevant and VALID Common Law that spans a large amount of history
which includes references to Oregon cases as well;
Black and Pomeroy Treatise
on the Law of Water Rights 1893 establishes clearly that a Vested
water right after it has been beneficially used can be used for ANY TYPE
OF USE:
SEE PAGES 116 to 119:
§68 Appropriator may change
place or manner of use.
Actual Excerpts:
"RIGHT to Exclusive Use of Water"
" ..... The general doctrine is SETTLED, by the unanimous
consent of the authorities, that the prior appropriator
is entitled to the exclusive use of the water, up to the amount embraced
in his appropriation, either for the original purpose or for ANY
OTHER PURPOSE or DIFFERENT PURPOSE, provided the amount is not
increased, without diminution or material altercation in quantity or quality;
and his use will, to that extent and for such purposes, be protected
against all subsequent appropriators, both above and below on the same stream; and to this
end he may obtain all proper remedies, legal and equitable. 1"
Cases Sited: 1 " Himes v. Johnson, 61 Cal.
259; Stein Canal Co. v. Kern Island I. C. Co., 53 Cal. 563; Reynolds v. Hosmer,
51 Cal 205; Gregory v. Nelson, 41 Cal. 278; Clark v. Willett, 35 Cal. 534;
Davis v. Gale, 32 Cal. 23; McDonald v. Askew, 29 Cal. 200; Hill v. Smith,
27 Cal. 476; 32 Cal. 166; Rupley v. Welch, 23 Cal. 543; Pheonix W. Co. v.
Fletcher, Id. 482; Natoma W. Co. v. McCoy, Id. 490; Butte, etc., Co v. Morgan,19
Cal. 609; Kid v. Laird, 15 Cal. 161; Kimball v. Gearhart, 12 Caql. 27; Ortman
v. Dixon, 18 Cal. 33; Bear River, etc., Co v. New York M. Co., 8 Cal. 327;
Ophir Silver M. Co. v. Carpenter, 4 Nev. 534; Barnes v. Sabron, 10 Nev.
217; Strait v. Brown, 16 Nev. 317; Atchison v. Peterson, 20 Wall, 515. "
Black Pomeroy Treatise on Water
Rights available from:
American Patriot Party:
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc
Klare Taylor Publishers http://www.klaretaylorpublishers.com
This is not a state born privilege, but a
VESTED TITLE IN THE RIGHT.
This is contrary to the States
attempt to minimize the rights of the Vested water Right Holder in an
attempt to draw vested rights into Post 1909 constrictions,
and away from Common Law Doctorine Powers and Rights Vested
of which continue to be valid in and of the right both today and in the future.
The cases sited would be used to determine
cases in Oregon courts and across the west or anywhere Common Law is respected
which is a "preexisting right in the people that exists whether it is
written in a Constitution or not" See Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788.
One must also realize that Oregon did not become a state until 1859, so
this 1893 "second printing" of over 560 pages relates to actual major cases
established existing states, back to and including English doctrine cases;
which the courts from all states drew from to make their decisions; Including
Oregon.
Even at the time this reprint was printed,
the author noted changes that were "unprecedented" in powers states were
taking as they moved toward 1901 changes in western water law.
I have presented some Oregon Law in a reply post below that relates to
this issue;
To show the validity of Common Law still in effect to existing rights
to water, Oregon present this law:
ORS 539.010 "...(4) The
RIGHT of any person to take and use water
SHALL NOT be "impaired or effected" by "ANY Provisions" of the water
right act (as defined in ORS 537.010) where appropriations were initiated
prior to February 24, 1909, and such appropriators, their heirs, or assigns
did in good faith, and in compliance with the "LAWS THEN
EXISTING", commence the construction
of works for the application of the water so appropriated to a beneficial
use, and thereafter prosecuted such work diligently and continuously to completion.
However all such RIGHTS shall be adjudicated in the same manner as
provided in this chapter."
See Also:
Lords Oregon Laws 1909, Chapter
VI '6594, '6595, VESTED RIGHTS PRESERVED; The water being put to beneficial
use, See 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & 8. In (2) it presents actual application "...shall
be DEEMED to CREATE in such a riparian
proprietor a Vested Right...." In (7): "Have in good Faith and diligently
prosecuted SHALL NOT BE SET ASIDE OR
VOIDED." Crandell vs Woods 1 8 Cal. 132,
(1857) "...One who locates upon public lands with the view of appropriating
them to his own use become "ABSOLUTE OWNER THEREOF"...The conclusion
therefor reached, that the rights of a prior grantee from the United States
as "AGAINST ANY SUBSEQUENT
APPROPRIATORS of WATER, must be REGARDED AS COMPLETE AND
PERFECT"
Cases: 1 Bybee v. Oregon &
Co., 139 U.S. 663, Sup. Ct. Rep. 641; Vansickle v. Hanes, 2 the supreme court
of Nevada decided...1 2 Sawy. 450; and see Union Mill & M. Co. v. Ferris,
2 Sawy, 176. 3 7 Nev.249. (see Black Pomeroy for others)
HOW THE STATE IS TAKING
THE WATER:
The methods used by the state, is that the
state is "affecting" Vested Water Rights (they are expressly prohibited
doing) using Both PROCEDURAL and "POST" provisions of the
water right act to attempt to take and take water and powers
held by right holders in the adjudication by these means:
a.) use of a persons lack of knowledge of
the powers and rights they in fact still possess in that they filled
out their claim not knowing their rights and riparian rights 100 years
in the past; and not telling them, expecting they or their attorney (who
are ignorant of common law water rights) to know.
b.) attempting to impose POST 1909 "beneficial
use" parameters; i.e. what the "state" has determined as
beneficial use, which is an arbitrary water per acre amount
not established by the soil; ...a common law requirement. Or by modern applications
and not flood irrigation.
c.) to make the Right Holder "divide
up his right" and pay for "particular" uses, and any other use considered
a NEW USE under POST 1909 Law; when under Common Laws (THEN EXISTING)
The POWER POSSESSED of a Right to Irrigate, once diverted for that use, could
be USED FOR "ANY OTHER USE" such as mining or milling throughout
the year without any application to the state.
d.) to make the Right Holder LOOSE rights
he in fact STILL possesses, to use water at "DIFFERENT
periods of TIME" during the year; IF he "states
in his claim", (....unknowing the POWER of his right to use
his right is YEAR ROUND for any purpose) he irrigated only 8 months, the
State attempts to say he would "loose the right" to use that water the other
4 months for "other uses" (because he didn.t claim it or pay a SEPARATE FEE
for a different use see (c.) above); and during "that 4 month period", the
State is claiming to have the power to take that water, "remove (TAKE) the
power of the right" and give the water to others who claim new rights; or
Even more criminal, to give access to those that have earlier rights that
overlap into that time period in the winter - Such as Non-consumptive uses,
controlled by "POWER COMPANIES" "CITIES" and "UTILITIES";
Which under his POWERS of RIGHT under the LAWS THEN EXISTING, the APPROPRIATOR
could use that water "any way he wished" during that time AS WELL,
should he choose, so long as he did not purposely waste it or retain it without
use just so that another couldn't; This is because the water "under TITLE"
by the prior appropriator was held away from any acquisition by others unless
it became naturally available, by abandonment or not used by the prior appropriator
but not abandoned. i.e. used for any purpose he desired as it was (and
still is) a RIGHT
OF TITLE and USE.
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Black and Pomeroy Treaties
on Water Rights 1893:
In Ortman v. Dixon it is HELD that a prior
appropriator of water for "mill purposes" is "ENTITLED" to the "EXTENT OF
HIS APPROPRIATION", and for those purposes to the EXCLUSION OF ANY SUBSEQUENT
APPROPRIATION for the SAME AMOUNT >>> "OR" FOR "OTHER
PURPOSES".
Page 22: "Should the appropriator be precluded from thereafter changing either
its use or the place thereof? The reply must
be in the NEGATIVE, for in "ALL
CASES" the purpose of the appropriation is such that NO SUBSEQUENT appropriator
can thereby be misled to his injury. DISTINCT NOTICE is given in such
cases, NOT ONLY that so much water is drawn from public supply, but that
it's appropriation is such that it cannot be used a second time. It
is a notice that so much water is practically destroyed, - is eliminated from
existence as water. A Subsequent locator has actual notice that this amount of
water is >>> withdrawn from >>>>>>>ALL
PUBLIC CLAIM," is absorbed, and has become
a VESTED RIGHT."
Page 119: "...In Kid v. Laird (15 Cal.161.) the doctrine on this subject
was announced the doctrine on this subject was announced in the following
"BROAD AND GENERAL MANNER": "A person entitled to divert a GIVEN QUANTITY of the
water of a stream may take the water at any point of the stream and may change
the point of diversion at "HIS" pleasure, if the rights
of others are not injured by such change. This RIGHT OF CHANGE >>>does
not depend upon the mode of acquiring the right to use the Water, >>>whether
by an express grant or by prescription, >>>>>>>>>>OR
by parol license or "presumed consent" of the proprietor . The
difference as to the "origin of the right" affects "the mode" of "determining
its existence and it's extent", [i. e., the AMOUNT of water APPROPRIATED,]
and >>>>>>>"NOT
the MANNER of its EXERCISE and ENJOYMENT"."
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Page 120: "Davis v. Gale ..."A person who has appropriated the water of
a stream, and caused it to a particular place by a ditch, for a "special
use", MAY AFTERWARDS CHANGE THE
USE, AND THE PLACE AT WHICH HE USED IT, WITHOUT LOSING HIS PRIORITY as against one
who dug a ditch from the same stream before the change was made. ...APPROPRIATION
and use of water for beneficial "PURPOSES" are the tests of right in such
cases, and >>>"not" the place and CHARACTER OF THE PARTICULAR USE."
;
b.) Milling - Machinery - A common law right to use for any type of
machinery,
it is not limited, as post 1909 uses are and would have, because it was note
yet defined in laws at that time, domestic or commercial power turned by
the machinery granted in right;
c.) and Irrigation - Established field and riparian on ditches for stock
".
d.) Common law right to use of any or all such water under the vested
claim amount for any other purposes during these times or any other.
Black Pomeroy Treatise on Law of Water Rights
available from:
American Patriot Party:
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc
Klare Taylor
Can you now see the Corruption?
OWRD and their legal counsel are corrupting
the laws and taking advantage of Vested Water Right Holders using the procedure,
for the sole purpose of taking control of water they have absolutely NO
right to..
So that the can place the water under powers taken by the state in 1909
and redistribute the water to others.
John Locke 222. The reason
why men enter into society is the preservation of their property; and the end while
they choose and authorize a legislative is that there may be laws made, and
rules set, as guards and fences to the properties of all the society, to
limit the power and moderate the dominion of every part and member of the
society. For since it can never be supposed to be the will of the society
that the legislative should have a power to destroy that which every one designs
to secure by entering into society, and for which the people submitted themselves
to legislators of their own making: whenever the legislators endeavour
to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them
to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war
with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and
are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against
force and violence. Whensoever, therefore, the
LEGISLATIVE shall transgress this fundamental
rule of society, and either
by ambition, fear, folly, or corruption, endeavour
to "grasp themselves", or put into the hands of any other, an absolute power
over the lives, liberties, and estates of the people, by this breach
of trust they forfeit the power the people had put into their hands for
quite contrary ends, and it devolves to the people, who
have a right to resume their original liberty, and by the
establishment of a new legislative (such as they shall think fit), provide
for their own safety and security, (APP Note: See this in the Declaration
of Independence) which is the end for which they are in society.
Note: See this also in:
Samuel Adams Statement within the
Rights of the Colonists, 1772: "If men through
fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms
renounce and give up ANY essential natural right, the eternal law
of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation;
the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power
of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave."
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To illustrate where the state
is attempting to assume powers it does not have, we will review the laws
step by step to show where incorrect interpretations are being used to minimize
protections established by 1909 statutes so to take undelegated powers over
Common Law Vested Rights, Uses and Protections.
FIRST POINTS OF LAW:
1.) State is prohibited from
placing Vested Rights under post 1909 statute.
Established by: Oregon Statute (ORS):
Cases cited:
ORS 539.010
(1) Actual application of water to beneficial
use prior to February 24, 1909, by or under authority of any riparian proprietor
or the predecessors in interest of the riparian proprietor, shall be DEEMED
to "create" in the riparian proprietor a VESTED RIGHT to the extent of the
"ACTUAL APPLICATION" to beneficial use; provided, such
use has not been abandoned for a continuous
period of two years.
"...(4) The RIGHT of any person to take and use water SHALL
NOT be "impaired or effected" by "ANY Provisions" of the water right act
(as defined in ORS 537.010) where appropriations were initiated prior
to February 24, 1909, and such appropriators, their heirs, or assigns did
in good faith, and in compliance with the "LAWS THEN EXISTING", commence
the construction of works for the application of the water so appropriated
to a beneficial use, and thereafter prosecuted such work diligently and continuously
to completion. However all such RIGHTS shall be adjudicated in the same
manner as provided in this chapter."
(6) Where appropriations of water attempted
before February 24, 1909, were undertaken in good faith, and the work of
construction or improvement thereunder was in good faith commenced and diligently
prosecuted, such appropriations shall not be set
aside or voided in PROCEEDINGS under this chapter because of
"ANY" irregularity or insufficiency
of the notice by law, or in the manner of posting, >>>>>>>"RECORDING">
or publication thereof.
2.) Rights are established and
protected by laws in place AT THE TIME
OF THE CLAIM was FIRST made.
Established by Oregon Supreme
Court Ruling:
Reports of Cases, Volume
Decided in the Supreme Court of the State of Oregon, Volume 114, March 24,1925
to June 1925, Page #116:
"....Water and Water Courses - Title to Land Obtained Subject to Laws
Prevailing.
(#26): "Those obtaining title to land take "SAME" subject to "LAWS THEN
PREVAILING" "RELATING TO THE APPROPRIATION" OF "WATER" "
3.) State can only use the adjudication
to establish acreage and that the water was beneficially used; The State
however CANNOT DEFINE what is and what is not "beneficial use" using POST
1909 law.
Established by: OREGON STATUTES:
Cases cited:
ORS 539.010 "...(4) The
RIGHT of any person to take and use water
SHALL NOT be "impaired or effected" by "ANY Provisions"
of the water right act (as defined in ORS 537.010) where appropriations
were initiated prior to February 24, 1909, and such appropriators, their
heirs, or assigns did in good faith, and in compliance with the "LAWS THEN
EXISTING", commence the construction
of works for the application of the water so appropriated to a beneficial
use, and thereafter prosecuted such work diligently and continuously to completion.
However all such RIGHTS shall be adjudicated in the same manner as provided
in this chapter."
4.) State cannot change or redefine
the construct of the Right.
Comments: The state cannot take a right that
has multiple uses defined in a single right, and then divide that right into
three separate uses to make the right holder prove each use.
Why?
Vested rights once beneficially used under their doctrine can be
used for ANY PURPOSE.
This is a established FACT.
Cases cited:
See Blacks Pomeroy on Water
Rights Page 116 to 119. §69
SEE PAGES 116 to 119:
§68 Appropriator may change place or manner of use.
Actual Excerpts:
"RIGHT to Exclusive Use of Water"
" ..... The general doctrine is SETTLED, by the unanimous
consent of the authorities, that the prior appropriator
is entitled to the exclusive use of the water,
up to the amount embraced in his "APPROPRIATION", either for
the original purpose or for "ANY OTHER PURPOSE"
or "DIFFERENT PURPOSE", provided the amount is not
increased, without diminution or material altercation in quantity or quality;
and his use will, to that extent and for such purposes, be protected
against all subsequent appropriators, both above and below on the same stream; and to this
end he may obtain all proper remedies, legal and equitable. 1"
Cases Sited: 1 " Himes v. Johnson, 61 Cal.
259; Stein Canal Co. v. Kern Island I. C. Co., 53 Cal. 563; Reynolds v. Hosmer,
51 Cal 205; Gregory v. Nelson, 41 Cal. 278; Clark v. Willett, 35 Cal. 534;
Davis v. Gale, 32 Cal. 23; McDonald v. Askew, 29 Cal. 200; Hill v. Smith,
27 Cal. 476; 32 Cal. 166; Rupley v. Welch, 23 Cal. 543; Pheonix W. Co. v.
Fletcher, Id. 482; Natoma W. Co. v. McCoy, Id. 490; Butte, etc., Co v. Morgan,19
Cal. 609; Kid v. Laird, 15 Cal. 161; Kimball v. Gearhart, 12 Caql. 27; Ortman
v. Dixon, 18 Cal. 33; Bear River, etc., Co v. New York M. Co., 8 Cal. 327;
Ophir Silver M. Co. v. Carpenter, 4 Nev. 534; Barnes v. Sabron, 10 Nev.
217; Strait v. Brown, 16 Nev. 317; Atchison v. Peterson, 20 Wall, 515. "
In Ortman v. Dixon it is HELD that a prior appropriator of water for "mill
purposes" is "ENTITLED" to the "EXTENT
OF HIS APPROPRIATION", and for those purposes to the
EXCLUSION OF ANY SUBSEQUENT APPROPRIATION
for the SAME AMOUNT >>>
"OR" FOR "OTHER PURPOSES".
Blacks Pomeroy on Water Rights:
§69 Page 118-123:
"Appropriator" may change the
place and manner of use.
Page 118: "Whenever a prior appropriation has been made for a certain
kind of purpose or use, the appropriator MAY, as against other parties whose
rights have accrued subsequently to his own, change the place of his use
for the same purpose, if ...not increased beyond that of his original appropriation;
and it seems that he MAY, as against such parties,
change the NATURE OF THE PURPOSE OR USE to which the water was applied, provided the
amount ...is not increased..... These conclusions seem to be established
by the decisions. In Woolman v. Garringer (1 Mont. 535.) it was held that
a prior appropriator for minning purposes at a certain place, may extend his
ditch, and use his water, to the extent of his original appropriation,
at "any" other place, for the same "or other" purposes".
Page 119: "...In Kid v. Laird
(15 Cal.161.) the doctrine on this subject was announced the doctrine on
this subject was announced in the following "BROAD AND
GENERAL MANNER": "A person entitled to divert
a GIVEN QUANTITY of the
water of a stream may take the water at any point of the stream and may change
the point of diversion at "his" pleasure, if the rights of others are not
injured by such change. This RIGHT OF CHANGE >>>does not
depend upon the mode of acquiring the right to use the Water, >>>whether
by an express grant or by prescription, >>>>>>>>>>OR
by parol license or "presumed consent" of the proprietor . The
difference as to the "origin of the right" affects "the mode" of "determining
its existence and it's extent", [i. e., the AMOUNT of water APPROPRIATED,]
and >>>>>>>"NOT
the MANNER of its EXERCISE and ENJOYMENT"."
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Page 120: "Davis v. Gale ..."A person who has appropriated the water of
a stream, and caused it to a particular place by a ditch, for a "special
use", MAY AFTERWARDS CHANGE THE
USE, AND THE PLACE AT WHICH HE USED IT, WITHOUT LOSING HIS PRIORITY as against one
who dug a ditch from the same stream before the change was made. ...APPROPRIATION
and use of water for beneficial "PURPOSES" are the tests of right in such
cases, and >>>"not" the place and CHARACTER OF THE PARTICULAR USE."
;
Page 22: "Should the appropriator
be precluded from thereafter changing either its use or the place
thereof? The reply must
be in the NEGATIVE, for in "ALL CASES" the purpose
of the appropriation is such that NO SUBSEQUENT appropriator can thereby
be misled to his injury. DISTINCT NOTICE is given in such cases,
NOT ONLY that "so much" water
is drawn from public supply, but that it's appropriation
is such that it cannot be used a second time. It is a notice that so
much water is practically destroyed, - is eliminated from existence as
water. A Subsequent locator has actual notice that this amount of water
is >>> withdrawn from >>>>>>>
"ALL PUBLIC CLAIM"," is absorbed, and has become
a VESTED RIGHT."
NOTE:
The change of irrigation in part
or full or temporary uses to milling or mining would entitle the
user to uses that would be "YEAR ROUND"
The state ATTEMPTS and without
any authority, to limit "portions of the year" through either irrigation
periods or statements by the vested right holder in the recent (1990's)
"recording his claim";
Or to "divide a Right" that has INFINITE uses to that ONE
Right,
for "Domestic, Milling and Irrigation" or other; This is a general
use claim for the benefit of the right holder and Domestic, Milling and irrigation
are a year round use and a power of the right when ever they (we)
find a need, it is a right of title.
The attempt by the state to remove this right of INFINITE uses, is arrogating a state power
which has been expressly prohibited and a power NOT GRANTED THE STATE; an
attempt so as to redefine the powers possessed of a vested right which is
determined by DITCH and ORIGINAL APPROPRIATION and "NOT" PERIOD OF USE during
the year.
5.) POSSESSION of the right for these uses after diverting for one
or more of them establishes the right of use for all purposes of the original
claim for, but not limited to:
a.) "Domestic - Year round and established
- includes Livestock, household, orchard, machinery and many other uses under
common law; Not simply as riparian, but as part and power of the right that
was granted in TITLE to use:
Black and Pomeroy Treaties
on Water Rights 1893:
Page 22: "Should the appropriator be precluded
from thereafter changing either its
use or the place thereof? The reply must be in the NEGATIVE, for in "ALL
CASES" the purpose of the appropriation is such that NO SUBSEQUENT appropriator
can thereby be misled to his injury. DISTINCT NOTICE is given in such
cases, NOT ONLY that so much water is drawn from public supply, but that
it's appropriation is such that it cannot be used a second time. It
is a notice that so much water is practically destroyed, - is eliminated from
existence as water. A Subsequent locator has actual notice that this amount of
water is >>> withdrawn from >>>>>>>ALL
PUBLIC CLAIM," is absorbed, and has become
a VESTED RIGHT."
Page 119: "...In Kid v. Laird (15 Cal.161.) the doctrine on this subject
was announced the doctrine on this subject was announced in the following
"BROAD AND GENERAL MANNER": "A person entitled to divert a GIVEN QUANTITY of the
water of a stream may take the water at any point of the stream and may change
the point of diversion at "HIS" pleasure, if the rights
of others are not injured by such change. This RIGHT OF CHANGE
>>>does not depend upon the mode of acquiring the right to use
the Water, >>>whether by an express grant
or by prescription, >>>>>>>>>>OR
by parole license or "presumed consent" of the proprietor . The
difference as to the "origin of the right" affects "the mode" of
"determining its existence and it's extent", [i. e., the AMOUNT of
water APPROPRIATED,] and >>>>>>>"NOT
the MANNER of its EXERCISE and ENJOYMENT"."
Page 120: "Davis v. Gale ..."A
person who has appropriated the water of a stream, and caused it to a particular
place by a ditch, for a "special use", MAY AFTERWARDS CHANGE THE
USE, AND THE PLACE AT WHICH HE USED IT, WITHOUT LOSING HIS PRIORITY as against one
who dug a ditch from the same stream before the change was made. ...APPROPRIATION
and use of water for beneficial "PURPOSES" are the tests of right in such
cases, and >>>"not" the place and CHARACTER OF THE PARTICULAR USE."
Black Pomeroy Treatise on
Water Rights available from:
American Patriot Party:
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc
Klare Taylor Publishers http://www.klaretaylorpublishers.com
b.) Milling - Machinery
- A common law right to use for any type of machinery, it is not limited, as post
1909 uses are and would have, because it was note yet defined in laws at
that time, domestic or commercial power turned by the machinery granted in
right;
c.) Irrigation and Livestock - Established field and riparian on
ditches for stock ".
d.) ANY OTHER PURPOSE: Common law right to use of any or all such
water under the vested claim amount for any other purposes during these
times or ANY OTHER.
6.) State cannot change or
redefine Rights created under Common Law Doctrine;
Protections continue to be possessed by
the Vested right(s) having been established under it.
Article 25 of the American Declaration
of the Rights and Duties of Man provides in part that "[n]o person may be
deprived of his liberty except in the cases and according to the procedures
established by pre-existing law." The right
to be tried in accordance to "pre-existing law" is reiterated
in article 26.
Absolute Rights of the Colonists 1772 by Samuel Adams:
In Full: http://www.AMERICANPATRIOTPARTY.CC (Suggested Reading
Documents)
"Samuel Adams 1772: "...Thirdly, The supreme power (legislative) cannot
Justly take from any man, ANY PART of his property without his consent,
in person "OR" BY HIS "REPRESENTATIVE".--
These are some of the "FIRST
PRINCIPLES" of natural law & Justice, and the great Barriers of "ALL
FREE STATES", and of the British Constitution
in particular. It is utterly irreconcileable to these principles, and to
many other fundamental maxims of the common law, common sense and reason,
that a British house of commons, should have a right, at pleasure, to "give
and grant" the "property" of the Colonists...."
7.) The State CANNOT
charge a fee after dividing a right in such a way, then omit
uses of the water to any claim for failure
to pay such fee IN SUBMITTING THEIR CLAIM for each of the state defined and divided uses,
that the right holder "ALREADY" possesses in their
ONE right
that can be used for "ALL PURPOSES" and at "ANY
TIME OF THE YEAR".
The state cannot simply claim it
has a ruling that it is "Not Unconstitutional " to ask a fee, then attempt
to throw out valid vested rights from lack of receiving such a fee when the
whole purpose of the Adjudication is to protect valid vested water rights.
This is an obvious "evincing of a design" to wrest valid rights
away from valid Vested Right Holders.
8.) ORS states no deficiency of recording
or posting shall endanger a valid vested right.
A Claim is a RECORDING;
NOTE: The adjudication is the
THIRD TIME THE STATE HAS REQUIRED WATER RIGHT
HOLDERS TO "RECORD" THEIR CLAIM:
a.) at the time of claim;
b.) in 1899 and
c.) at the time of the adjudication;
The state cannot discard the first two, divide the third claim and then
say that the Claimant has lost rights because he did not "claim" them in
his "claim form" 100 years after the first 2 claims were made.
ORS 539.010 :
(6) Where appropriations of water attempted before February 24, 1909,
were undertaken in good faith, and the work of construction or improvement
thereunder was in good faith commenced and diligently prosecuted, such "appropriations"
"SHALL NOT" be set aside or voided in "proceedings" under this chapter
because of any irregularity or insufficiency of the notice by law, or in
the manner of posting, >>>>>>>"RECORDING"> or publication
thereof.
ORS 539.010
(1) Actual application of water to beneficial
use prior to February 24, 1909, by or under authority of any riparian proprietor
or the predecessors in interest of the riparian proprietor, shall be >>>>>>>>>>>>>DEEMED
to "create" in the riparian proprietor a VESTED RIGHT to the extent of the
"ACTUAL APPLICATION" to beneficial use; provided, such
use has not been abandoned for a continuous
period of two years.
"...(4) The RIGHT of any person to take and use water SHALL
NOT be "impaired or effected" by "ANY Provisions" of the water right act
(as defined in ORS 537.010) where appropriations were initiated prior
to February 24, 1909, and such appropriators, their heirs, or assigns did
in good faith, and in compliance with the "LAWS THEN EXISTING", commence
the construction of works for the application of the water so appropriated
to a beneficial use, and thereafter prosecuted such work diligently and continuously
to completion. However all such RIGHTS shall be adjudicated in the same
manner as provided in this chapter."
QUICK QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
1.) Question:
Note: This question omits actual willing abandonment.
"Can a vested right be lost" to simple non
use, such as a farm setting dormant until another family member or new buyer
begins to use the vested water right again or a company stops using the water;
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Common law establishes that a "individuals"
right is not lost whether he uses the water
or not, and that junior claims to the water remain junior.
It simply allows the junior right
to use the water when the senior right holder's use is satisfied or during
the period it is not used.
Blacks Pomeroy on water rights page 116
-119 §69 site these determiners:
Corporations Non Use:
Exclusive Rights of Individual Vested Right Holders:
Abandonment:
2.) Question:
Can the state arbitrarily determine beneficial water amounts to acreages?
ANSWER: NO.
Soils are different everywhere. And each location
has different demands.
Delivery systems are different. Flood and sprinkler are different in cost,
labor, upkeep, maintenance efficiency and delivery.
3.) Question:
Can acreage be determined by the state universally and in all cases by
a Section or Aerial Map?
ANSWER: NO
Terrain is different. - a 45° + hillside
can have 1/3 or more acreage in which to claim use or beneficial use
upon.
This actual surface area will not be seen on a section map or on a aerial
photograph.
A actual ground survey that shows actual terrain footage must be established.
This is the Determiner.
Otherwise, over 1/3 of an irrigated pasture could be lost by insufficient
water amounts being established.
4.) Question:
Can aerial maps be used to determine acreage?
ANSWER: NO.
This is an attorney trick.
Usually backed by so called "professional" aerial examiners and computer
programed gimmicks overlaying line on the aerial with computer generated
acreage.
Sometimes the thickness of the computer line itself removes many acres
from the total.
The height of the airplane from the ground is often attempted to assure
the person that it is an accurate measurement, which it can never be.
Unless Actual MEETS and BOUNDS are established
from Actual Survey Points, no measurement is accurate and no such measurement
should ever be accepted by any so called "professional";
Which he would not be if he attempted to sell such an obserdity.
5.) Question:
Can a Vested water right be used for any purpose?
ANSWER: YES.
This is without question a VESTED RIGHT.
Blacks Pomeroy on Water Rights establishes clearly that a Vested water
right after it has been beneficially used can be used for any use!
SEE PAGES 116 to 119:
§68 Appropriator may change
place or manner of use.
Actual Excerpts:
"RIGHT to Exclusive Use of Water"
" ..... The general doctrine is SETTLED, by the unanimous consent of the
authorities, that the prior appropriator is entitled to the exclusive use
of the water, up to the amount embraced in his appropriation, either for the
original purpose or for ANY OTHER PURPOSE or DIFFERENT PURPOSE, provided the
amount is not increased, without diminution or material altercation in quantity
or quality; and his use will, to that extent and for such purposes, be protected
against all subsequent appropriators, both above and below on the same stream;
and to this end he may obtain all proper remedies, legal and equitable. 1"
Cases Sited: 1 " Himes
v. Johnson, 61 Cal. 259; Stein Canal Co. v. Kern Island I. C. Co., 53 Cal.
563; Reynolds v. Hosmer, 51 Cal 205; Gregory v. Nelson, 41 Cal. 278; Clark
v. Willett, 35 Cal. 534; Davis v. Gale, 32 Cal. 23; McDonald v. Askew, 29
Cal. 200; Hill v. Smith, 27 Cal. 476; 32 Cal. 166; Rupley v. Welch, 23 Cal.
543; Pheonix W. Co. v. Fletcher, Id. 482; Natoma W. Co. v. McCoy, Id. 490;
Butte, etc., Co v. Morgan,19 Cal. 609; Kid v. Laird, 15 Cal. 161; Kimball
v. Gearhart, 12 Caql. 27; Ortman v. Dixon, 18 Cal. 33; Bear River, etc.,
Co v. New York M. Co., 8 Cal. 327; Ophir Silver M. Co. v. Carpenter, 4 Nev.
534; Barnes v. Sabron, 10 Nev. 217; Strait v. Brown, 16 Nev. 317; Atchison
v. Peterson, 20 Wall, 515. "
Black Pomeroy Treatise on Water Rights available from:
American Patriot Party:
http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc
Klare Taylor Publishers http://www.klaretaylorpublishers.com
This is not a state born privilege, but a
VESTED RIGHT.
This is contrary to the States attempt
to minimize the rights of the Vested water Right Holder in an attempt to
draw vested rights into Post 1909 constrictions, and away from common law
powers and rights Vested of which continue to be valid in the right
today and in the future.
6.) Question:
With regard to power, can this be used for
power?
Answer: YES.
It was established that power companies are
NOT CLAIMANTS with regard to operating
power generation plants prior to 1909.
This places electrical use under Common Law doctrine of running any type
of motoring or milling device.
Common law again allows other uses with only few restrictions such as
not taking the water away from the basin of origin or changing a nonconsumptive
use to a consumptive use which would lessen quantity or quality of water
to subsiquient users.
Consumptive to nonconsumptive by an individual does not establish abandonment
of consumptive unless there is a removal of all construct of the consumptive;
Often a non consumptive use can be employed along with the consumptive to
provide greater benefit and efficiency to the vested right holder and is
a right, not a state born privilege.
Vested rights are not under post 1909 rules and the state is expressly
prohibited from forcing them to be.
States have without authorization in law, attempted to put all parties
under 1909 regulations when those rights are securely under .
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John Locke
on
Civil Government
John Locke 212. Besides this overturning
from without, governments are dissolved
from within:
First. When
the legislative is altered, civil society being a state of peace
amongst those who are of it, from whom the state of war is excluded by the
umpirage which they have provided in their legislative for the ending all
differences that may arise amongst any of them; it is in their legislative
that the members of a commonwealth are united and combined together into one
coherent living body. This is the soul that gives form, life, and unity to
the commonwealth; from hence the several members have their mutual influence,
sympathy, and connection; and therefore when the legislative is broken, or
dissolved, dissolution and death follows. For the essence and union of the
society consisting in having one will, the legislative, when once established
by the majority, has the declaring and, as it were, keeping of that will.
The constitution of the legislative is the first and fundamental act of society,
whereby provision is made for the continuation of their union under the direction
of persons and bonds of laws, made by persons authorized thereunto, by the
consent and appointment of the people, without which no one man, or number
of men, amongst them can have authority of making laws that shall be binding
to the rest. When any one, or more, shall take upon them to make laws whom
the people have not appointed so to do, they make laws without authority,
which the people are not therefore bound to obey; by which means they come
again to be out of subjection, and may constitute to themselves a new legislative,
as they think best, being in full liberty to resist the force of those who,
without authority, would impose anything upon them. Every one is at the disposure
of his own will, when those who had, by the "delegation" of the society,
the declaring of the public will, are excluded from it, and others usurp
the place who have no such authority or delegation.
John Locke 213. This being usually brought
about by such in the commonwealth, who misuse the power they have, it is
hard to consider it aright, and know at whose door to lay it, without knowing
the form of government in which it happens. Let us suppose, then, the legislative
placed in the concurrence of three distinct persons: -- First, a single hereditary
person having the constant, supreme, executive power, and with it the power
of convoking and dissolving the other two within certain periods of time.
Secondly, an assembly of hereditary nobility. Thirdly, an assembly of representatives
chosen, pro tempore, by the people. Such a form of government supposed,
it is evident:
John Locke 214. First, that when
such a single person or prince sets up his own arbitrary will in place of
the laws which are the will of the society declared by the legislative, then
the legislative is changed. For that being, in effect, the legislative whose
rules and laws are put in execution, and required to be obeyed, when other
laws are set up, and other rules pretended and enforced than what the legislative,
constituted by the society, have enacted, it is plain that the legislative
is changed. Whoever introduces new laws, not being thereunto authorized, by
the fundamental appointment of the society, or subverts the old, disowns and
overturns the power by which they were made, and so sets up a new legislative.
John Locke 215. Secondly, when the
prince hinders the legislative from assembling in its due time, or from acting
freely, pursuant to those ends for which it was constituted, the legislative
is altered. For it is not a certain number of men -- no, nor their meeting,
unless they have also freedom of debating and leisure of perfecting what
is for the good of the society, wherein the legislative consists; when these
are taken away, or altered, so as to deprive the society of the due exercise
of their power, the legislative is truly altered. For it is not names that
constitute governments, but the use and exercise of those powers that were
intended to accompany them; so that he who takes away the freedom, or hinders
the acting of the legislative in its due seasons, in effect takes away the
legislative, and puts an end to the government.
John Locke 216. Thirdly, when, by the arbitrary
power of the prince, the electors or ways of election are altered without
the consent and contrary to the common interest of the people, there also
the legislative is altered. For if others than those whom the society hath
authorized thereunto do choose, or in another way than what the society hath
prescribed, those chosen are not the legislative appointed by the people.
John Locke 217. Fourthly, the delivery
also of the people into the subjection of a foreign power, either by the
prince or by the legislative, is certainly a change of the legislative, and
so a dissolution of the government. For the end why people entered into society
being to be preserved one entire, free, independent society to be governed
by its own laws, this is lost whenever they are given up into the power of
another.
John Locke 218. Why, in such a constitution
as this, the dissolution of the government in these cases is to be imputed
to the prince is evident, because he, having the force, treasure, and offices
of the State to employ, and often persuading himself or being flattered by
others, that, as supreme magistrate, he is incapable of control; he alone
is in a condition to make great advances towards such changes under pretense
of lawful authority, and has it in his hands to terrify or suppress opposers
as factious, seditious, and enemies to the government; whereas no other part
of the legislative, or people, is capable by themselves to attempt any alteration
of the legislative without open and visible rebellion, apt enough to be
taken notice of, which, when it prevails, produces effects very little different
from foreign conquest. Besides, the prince, in such a form of government,
having the power of dissolving the other parts of the legislative, and thereby
rendering them private persons, they can never, in opposition to him, or
without his concurrence, alter the legislative by a law, his consent being
necessary to give any of their decrees that sanction. But yet so far as the
other parts of the legislative any way contribute to any attempt upon the
government, and do either promote, or not, what lies in them, hinder such
designs, they are guilty, and partake in this,
which is certainly the greatest
crime men can be guilty of one towards another.
John Locke 219. There is
one way more whereby such a government may
be dissolved, and that is: When he who has the supreme executive power neglects
and abandons that charge, so that the laws already made can no longer be
put in execution; this is demonstratively to reduce all to anarchy, and so
effectively to dissolve the government. For laws not being made for themselves,
but to be, by their execution, the bonds of the society to keep every part
of the body politic in its due place and function. When that totally ceases,
the government visibly ceases, and the people become a confused multitude
without order or connection. Where there is no longer the administration of
justice for the securing of men's rights, nor any remaining power within the
community to direct the force, or provide for the necessities of the public,
there certainly is no government left. Where the laws cannot be executed it
is all one as if there were no laws, and a government without laws is, I
suppose, a mystery in politics inconceivable to human capacity, and inconsistent
with human society.
John Locke 220. In these, and the like
cases, when the government is dissolved, the people are at liberty to provide
for themselves by erecting a new legislative differing from the other by
the change of persons, or form, or both, as they shall find it most for their
safety and good. For the society can never, by the fault of another, lose
the native and original right it has to preserve itself, which can only be
done by a settled legislative and a fair and impartial execution of the laws
made by it. But the state of mankind is not so miserable that they are not
capable of using this remedy till it be too late to look for any. To tell
people they may provide for themselves by erecting a new legislative, when,
by oppression, artifice, or being delivered over to a foreign power, their
old one is gone, is only to tell them they may expect relief when it is too
late, and the evil is past cure. This is, in effect, no more than to bid them
first be slaves, and then to take care of their liberty, and, when their chains
are on, tell them they may act like free men. This, if barely so, is rather
mockery than relief, and men can never be secure from tyranny if there be
no means to escape it till they are perfectly under it; and, therefore, it
is that they have not only a right to get out of it, but to prevent it.
John Locke 221. There is, therefore, secondly,
another way whereby governments are dissolved, and that is, when the legislative,
or the prince, either of them act contrary to their trust.
For the legislative acts against the trust reposed in them when
they endeavour to invade the property of the subject, and to make
themselves, or any part of the community, masters or arbitrary disposers
of the lives, liberties, or fortunes of the people.
John Locke 222. The reason why men enter
into society is the preservation of their property; and the end while
they choose and authorize a legislative is that there may be laws made,
and rules set, as guards and fences to the properties of all the society,
to limit the power and moderate the dominion of every part and member of
the society. For since it can never be supposed to be the will of the society
that the legislative should have a power to destroy that which every one
designs to secure by entering into society, and for which the people submitted
themselves to legislators of their own making: whenever the legislators endeavour
to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to
slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with
the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are
left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force
and violence. Whensoever, therefore, the legislative shall transgress this
fundamental rule of society, and either by ambition, fear, folly, or corruption,
(APP Note: See this in Samuel Adams
Statement within the Rights of the Colonists, 1772: "If men through
fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential
natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would
absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift
of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and
voluntarily become a slave.")
endeavour to grasp themselves,
or put into the hands of any other, an absolute power over the lives, liberties,
and estates of the people, by this breach of trust they forfeit the power
the people had put into their hands for quite contrary ends, and it
devolves to the people, who have a right
to resume their original liberty, and by the establishment
of a new legislative (such as they shall think fit), provide for their own
safety and security, (APP Note: See this in the Declaration of Independence)
which is the end for which they are in society. What I have said here concerning
the legislative in general holds true also concerning the supreme executor,
who having a double trust put in him, both to have a part in the legislative
and the supreme execution of the law, acts against both, when he goes about
to set up his own arbitrary will as the law of the society. He acts also
contrary to his trust when he employs the force, treasure, and offices of
the society to corrupt the representatives and gain them to his purposes,
when he openly pre-engages the electors, and prescribes, to their choice,
such whom he has, by solicitation, threats, promises, or otherwise, won to
his "designs", and employs them to bring in such who have promised beforehand
what to vote and what to enact. Thus to regulate candidates and electors,
and new model the ways of election, what is it but to cut up the government
by the roots, and poison the very fountain of public security? For the people
having reserved to themselves the choice of their representatives as the
fence to their properties, could do it for no other end but that they might
always be freely chosen, and so chosen, freely act and advise as the necessity
of the commonwealth and the public good should, upon examination and mature
debate, be judged to require. This, those who give their votes before they
hear the debate, and have weighed the reasons on all sides, are not capable
of doing. To prepare such an assembly as this, and endeavour to set up the
declared abettors of his own will, for the true representatives of the people,
and the law-makers of the society, is certainly as great a breach of
trust, and as perfect a declaration
of a "design"
(APP Note: See this in the Declaration
of Independence and compare 223-226:
(" ... But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing
invariably the same object, evinces a "design" to reduce them under absolute
despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government
and to provide new guards for their future security.)
to subvert the government,
as is possible to be met with. To which, if one shall add rewards and punishments
visibly employed to the same end, and all the arts of perverted law made
use of to take off and destroy all that stand in the way of such a >>"design"
, and will not comply and consent to betray the
liberties of their country, it will be past doubt what is doing. What power
they ought to have in the society who thus employ it contrary to the trust
that along with it in its first institution, is easy to determine; and one
cannot but see that he who has once attempted any such thing as this
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John Locke 222: The reason why men
enter into society is the preservation of their "property";
and the end while they choose and authorize a legislative is that there may
be laws made, and rules set, as "guards" and "fences" to the properties
of all the society, to limit the "power" and moderate the "dominion"
of every part and member of the society.
For since it can >>>"never" be
supposed to be the will of the society that
the legislative should have a power to destroy that which every
one >>>designs to secure
by entering into society, and
for which the people submitted themselves to
legislators of their own making:
"whenever" the legislators endeavour to take
away and destroy the "property" of the people, or to reduce them to
slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a "state
of war with the people",
who are thereupon absolved from
"any farther obedience", and are left to the common
refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.
Whensoever, therefore, the legislative shall "transgress" this fundamental
rule of society,"
John Locke
149: "....And thus the
community perpetually retains a supreme
power of saving themselves from the
"attempts" and "designs" of "anybody",
even of their "legislators", whenever they
shall be so "foolish" or so "wicked" as to lay and carry on
"designs" against the liberties and "properties"
of the subject.
For no man or society of men having a power
to deliver up their preservation, or consequently the "means" of it,
to the absolute will and arbitrary "dominion" of another, whenever
any one shall go about to bring them into such a slavish condition, they
will always have a right to preserve what they have
not a power to part with, and to "rid" themselves of
"those" who invade this fundamental, sacred, and unalterable
law of self-preservation "for which" they "entered" into "society".
..."
Foolish Environmental Proposals:
RE: Klamath Falls Hearing Statement, Oregon Natural Resources Council
(Environmental Group Now "Oregon Wild" .org) June 16th, 2001
See the Environmentalist Statement - (Andy Kerr)
http://www.andykerr.net/KlamathBasin/KFHearingStatement.html
In Rebuttal
In opposition to such notions that environmentalists such as these have,
it is historically established that such notions are founded in the advancement
of socialism:
Our advice to Klamath Falls County Citizens
and Klamath County Government is to:
1.)
Establish County laws restricting federal intervention
of local County laws and local County legislation.
The Federal government is not a
"party" but a servant. It is limited to what delegated powers
under which it was first established.
Powers to debate local issues on water use, or land use is not a power that
was delegated to it. When the state was created, the land fell to the state
and their respective counties.
The federal government therefore has no say, it is not only neutral, but
a non entity . The only delegated power is for transferring
its lands and powers in those lands, into the hands of the people of
each state and community the land resides for distribution to the citizens
who wish to reside there.
The only land the federal government
may possess in limited portions that have been sanctified by each state,
is for forts. That's it.
This is established in the Constitutional
Debates, the federal government has no policing
powers of federal law outside the "10 mile square" of Washington DC, and
cannot create such laws that effect the Union at Large;
Only after a declaration of war granted by states to be
used in foreign wars;
State insurrections are state controlled operations that
can request aid from the federal government - i.e. other state's militia;
but the federal government cannot dictate, the state having
full powers of application over military
and militia while within the boarders
of the state that requested assistance.
See Constitutional
Debate.
2.) Establish Federal
Bills that will Transfer all Federal Lands into the ownership and
Control of the counties.
This is to provide local commonwealths most closely effected (1 - 5
miles maximum area) within the county exclusive powers of their
area over outside manipulations or controls. Bringing control to citizens
most affected within that County by and to
any issue of their area.
3.) Ranchers need to work to increase values
of land, and NOT fall prey to selling at a cut rate
to the federal Government, but to remove the federal government from the
county, and remove adverse zoning laws to allow smaller ranches,
for homes and businesses of all types so that more people can
benefit from the land;
This is far more practical than
removing productive land from availability to private ownership by
citizens.
4.) Remove the Funnel created by the Federal governments
involvement in the county which has allowed paths for national
and international environmental laws into your county and state, and you
will remove the chains of socialism from your wrists.
They will be removed because "the federal government will not be
there" as a catalyst for the environmental movement to ride
upon; or for the environmental movement to derive power from, to
dictate what you do with your private land.
The power will be gone from them, and into your hands; as
you, and your county and local communities will have
"absolute control of the land for your personal and family's benefit".
You will have removed the powers of a distant
and unconcerned legislator over your private property.
5.) Do you know why your land would be hard at
this time to derive profit either in production or sale?
a.) Because you are "denied the right"
to "use it" as "you see fit".
b.) You are limited by mandated zoning laws passed from federal to
state to county restricting the size you may sell at.
c.) You are restricted by what type of business
you can have and where it can be located.
6.) Zoning exceeds simple practical
building codes and practical pollution standards and arbitrarily decides
what, where and how you live and do business.
Get rid of the federal government and zoning from
your communities and you still can retain your building codes and
pollution standards, but you will be able to do what you want with
your property.
7.) Environmentalists attempt to shroud
their intent and goals to remove land and power from communities.
They use "catch phrases" after presenting what they determine
a real value which is usually 1/20 or less the real value, then offer to
double it for "Willing Sellers" and say, it is because
it is "...just the right thing to do" (Andy Kerr
Public Hearing Statement: http://www.andykerr.net/KlamathBasin/KFHearingStatement.html
)
Kerr and others like him use the same tactics in their bid
to removing leasees from the Cascade Siskiyou Monument saying that
the ranchers need to be "kept whole" offering them a choice
to either willingly sell at "their stipulated price - value"
or risk getting nothing for their lease land by simply pressuring the BLM
through bogus and slanted studies by so called "environmental Professionals"
all trained by college professors with the same prejudice and endless studies
that insure continuation of the professions they teach.
They will then will "of course" increase elk herds in place
of cattle herds; Then establish more federally "mandated" studies;
That forcibly paid by you through arbitrary forced
and mandated, non enumerated unconstitutional taxation; So to benefit
from the turmoil stirred up by these environmental groups and professional
environmentalists for job security through donations sent in from
environmental brain washing of others and
government contracts... again forcibly paid
by you through arbitrary forced and mandated, non enumerated
unconstitutional taxation.
Kerr's article attempts to rationalize his environmental impositions by
indicating the federal government would be able to purchase what he terms
"marginal farm land" after a lengthy speech in
his article on how much subsidized farming there is in Klamath Falls, and
that at 4,000 feet elevation he presents that it is ...really not the ideal
for farming;
This type of statement clearly attempting to disillusion both the
land owners and the public into believing their highly valuable
land that is ideal for Farming, simply because it is
flat, farmable, rich soiled, easily accessible and above all, has extremely
valuable water rights...
Water rights which they the environmentalists,
of course, are after to take away from the land and really devalue it; so
the land itself can be taken for minimal cost now or later.
Kerr concedes that $4000.oo an acre (twice of what he personally
has deemed it is worth) is not enough however to compensate for the "loss
of life style" ... but Kerr explains ....enough to "get clear
of the bank" and have a "little something" left for retirement
or the kid's "college fund"....
.....How thoughtful of him, and so not to be
construed incorrectly, a statement I sarcastically have presented.
8.) It appears that there are always environmentalists
there to relieve you of the "burdensom" land you own from prices
"held down from mandated zoning laws" and "controlled
market prices".
By getting rid of zoning, the land
value will increase because of the many
other uses can be freely developed at
each person's and property owner's will.
9.) We will show you how to make your farmland
valuable.
Convince your county commissioners to refuse
state and federal zoning mandates. Our Elect those who will.
Take away restrictions on property so
ranchers will be able to break their land into "market determined"
smaller parcels, divide the land, build upon them and use them "as
they see fit".
The land would then command far higher "per acre" free market
prices.
There will not only be money for the kids college
fund and retirement, but for investment and farm and lifestyle improvement.
Not only that, but land will be more available
for ownership by others and their posterity.
Farmers outweigh environmentalists in the Klamath
Falls area;
Vote the right farmers into county positions that will take command, establish
local laws that defy state and federal undelegated impositions, empower local
law enforcement of those laws and protect the rights and property of the
people in the Klamath Basin.
Make your laws and Use the local laws and powers
to take control and protect property rights in land and water.
John Locke: 186. "The
conqueror, it is true, usually by the force he has over them, compels them,
with a sword at their breasts, to stoop to his conditions, and submit
to such a government as he pleases to afford them; but the inquiry is,
what right he has to do so? If it be said they submit by their own consent,
then this allows their own consent to be necessary to give the conqueror
a title to rule over them. It remains only to be considered whether promises,
extorted by force, >>>"without
right" , can be "thought consent",
and how far they "bind".
To which I shall say, >>>"they
bind not at all" ; because >>>"whatsoever"
>>>"another">>>>>>>>gets from me "by force"
, (APP Note: Without Consent)
I still retain the right
of, and he is obliged presently to
restore. He that forces my horse from me ought presently to restore him,
and I have still a right to retake him.
By the same reason, he that forced a promise from
me ought presently to restore it -- i.e., quit me of the obligation of it;
or I may resume it myself -- i.e., choose whether I will perform it.
For the law of Nature
laying an obligation on me, only by the rules she prescribes, "cannot oblige
me" by the violation of her rules; such is the "extorting" >>>"anything" from me "by force"
.
Nor does it "at all" alter the case,
to say I gave my promise, no more than it excuses the
force, and passes the right, when
I put my hand in my pocket and deliver my purse myself to a thief who demands
it with a pistol at my breast."
Combating Intimidation
Intimidation,
whether immediate or eventual, is as much a method of force
as is a pistol, or arbitrary law that engages the public powers
that possess the means to wrest property or
rights to use property from a rightful
owners hands.
John Locke 193. But
granting that the conqueror, in a just war, has a right to the estates, as
well as power over the persons of the conquered, which, it is plain, he
hath not, nothing of absolute power will follow from hence in the continuance
of the government. Because the descendants of these being all free men,
if he grants them estates and possessions to inhabit his country, without
which it would be worth nothing, whatsoever he grants them they have so far
as it is granted property in; the nature whereof is, that,
without a man's own consent, it cannot be taken from him.
John Locke 194. Their
persons are free by a native right, and their properties, be they more
or less, are their own, and at their own dispose, and not at his; or else it
is no property. Supposing the conqueror gives to
one man a thousand acres, to him and his heirs for ever; to another he lets
a thousand acres, for his life, under the rent of L50 or L500 per annum.
Has not the one of these a
right to his thousand acres for ever, and the other during his life,
paying the said rent? And hath not the tenant for life a property in all
that he gets over and above his rent, by his labour and industry, during
the said term, supposing it be double the rent? Can any one say, the king,
or conqueror, after his grant, may, by his power
of conqueror, take away all, or part of the land, from the heirs of one,
or from the other during his life, he paying the rent? Or, can he take away
from either the goods or money they have got upon the said land at his pleasure?
If he can, then all free and voluntary
contracts cease, and are void in the world; there needs nothing
but power enough to dissolve them at any time, and all the grants and promises
of men in power are but mockery and collusion. For can there
be anything more ridiculous than to say, I give you and yours
this for ever, and that in the surest and most solemn way of conveyance can
be devised, and yet it is to be understood that I have right, if I please,
to take it away from you again to-morrow?
APP Note: Relate
this to US Land Patents absolute granting of properties and the Attempt
of the Federal Government to condemn such land (or water by common law attached
to the land) later, or the state to condemn such property after giving consent
to adjudicate such transfer by authority of the United States by which it
was a party, or to create new regulations upon it after granting it with
none; To encircle that land in national monument and control the inroads
and water, or to regulate limits to anything with regard
to it, or to arbitrarily tax it into debt and thereby rendering the land
not owned but rented, when no taxes were in established at the receiving of
it, or to tax it without consent, or tax without consent for things
built upon that property to improve its value, or raised upon it to derive
sustenance and earnings from his labors, or derive any such without consent
from those he wills it to.
And you will find that neither the
federal government, nor the state government
has the power to do so, nor has any power of
such been delegated to it by the original compacts they exist under.
For once property is possessed of a person, it is any governments
duty to protect it, and not to devise a design to wrest
it away after all rights had been released ; As this clearly established
by Locke that the protection of property is the purpose of government
and the reason that the person enters into society.
John Locke
202. Wherever law ends, tyranny
begins, if the law be transgressed
to another's harm; and whosoever in authority exceeds
the power given him by the law, and makes use of the force he has under
his command to compass that upon the subject
which the law allows not, ceases in that to be a magistrate, and acting without
authority may be opposed, as any other man who by force invades the right
of another. This is acknowledged in subordinate
magistrates. He that hath authority to seize my person in the street may
be opposed as a thief and a robber if he endeavours to break into my house
to execute a writ, notwithstanding that I know he has such a warrant and
such a legal authority as will empower him to arrest me abroad. And why
this should not hold in the highest, as well as in the most inferior magistrate,
I would gladly be informed. Is it reasonable that the eldest brother,
because he has the greatest part of his father's estate, should thereby have
a right to take away any of his younger brothers' portions? Or that
a rich man, who possessed a whole country, should from thence have a right
to seize, when he pleased, the cottage and garden of his poor neighbour?
The being rightfully possessed of great power and riches, exceedingly beyond
the greatest part of the sons of Adam, is so far from being an excuse,
much less a reason for rapine and oppression, which the endamaging another
without authority is, that it is a great aggravation of it. For exceeding
the bounds of authority is no more a right in a
great than a petty officer, no more justifiable in a king than a constable.
But so much the worse in him as that he has more
trust put in him, is supposed, from the advantage
of education and counsellors, to have better knowledge and less reason
to do it, having already a greater share
than the rest of his brethren.
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John Locke Chapter 11: Of
the "Extent" of the Legislative Power
John Locke 134. THE great end of men's entering into society
being the enjoyment of their
properties in peace and safety, and the great
instrument and means of that being the laws established in that society,
the first and fundamental positive law of all commonwealths is the establishing
of the legislative power, as the first and fundamental natural law which
is to govern even the legislative. Itself is the preservation of the society
and (as far as will consist with the public good) of every person in it.
This legislative is not only the supreme power of the commonwealth, but sacred
and unalterable in the hands where the community have once placed it. Nor
can any edict of anybody else, in what form soever conceived, or by what
power soever backed, have the force and obligation of a law which has not
its sanction from that legislative which the public has chosen and appointed;
for without this the law could not have that which is absolutely necessary
to its being a law, the consent of the society, over whom nobody can have
a power to make laws9 but by their own consent and by authority received from
them; and therefore all the obedience, which by the most solemn ties any
one can be obliged to pay, ultimately terminates in this supreme power, and
is directed by those laws which it enacts. Nor can any oaths to any foreign
power whatsoever, or any domestic subordinate power, discharge any member
of the society from his obedience to the legislative, acting pursuant to their
trust, nor oblige him to any obedience contrary to the laws so enacted or
farther than they do allow, it being ridiculous to imagine one can be tied
ultimately to obey any power in the society which is not the supreme.
John Locke 135. Though the legislative,
whether placed in one or more, whether it be always in being or only by
intervals, though it be the supreme power in every commonwealth, yet, first,
it is not, nor can possibly be, absolutely arbitrary over the lives and
fortunes of the people. For it being but the joint power of every member
of the society given up to that person or assembly which is legislator, it
can be no more than those persons had in a state of Nature before they entered
into society, and gave it up to the community. For nobody can transfer to
another more power than he has in himself, and nobody has an absolute arbitrary
power over himself, or over any other, to destroy his own life, or take away
the life or property of another. A man, as has been proved, cannot subject
himself to the arbitrary power of another; and having, in the state of Nature,
no arbitrary power over the life, liberty, or possession of another, but
only so much as the law of Nature gave him for the preservation of himself
and the rest of mankind, this is all he doth, or can give up to the commonwealth,
and by it to the legislative power, so that the legislative can have no more
than this. Their power in the utmost bounds of it is limited to the public
good of the society.10 It is a power that hath no other end but preservation,
and therefore can never have a right to destroy, enslave, or designedly to
impoverish the subjects; the obligations of the law of Nature cease not in
society, but only in many cases are drawn closer, and have, by human laws,
known penalties annexed to them to enforce their observation. Thus the law
of Nature stands as an eternal rule to all men, legislators as well as others.
The rules that they make for, other men's actions must, as well as their own
and other men's actions, be conformable to the law of Nature -- i.e., to
the will of God, of which that is a declaration, and the fundamental law of
Nature being the preservation of mankind, no human sanction can be good or
valid against it.
John Locke 136. Secondly, the legislative
or supreme authority cannot assume to itself a power to rule by extemporary
arbitrary decrees, but is bound to dispense justice and decide the rights
of the subject by promulgated standing laws, 11 (APP Note: See these exact words
in the Rights of the Colonists) and known authorized judges.
For the law of Nature being unwritten, and so nowhere to be found but in
the minds of men, they who, through passion or interest, shall miscite or
misapply it, cannot so easily be convinced of their mistake where there is
no established judge; and so it serves not as it aught, to determine the rights
and fence the properties of those that live under it, especially where every
one is judge, interpreter, and executioner of it too, and that in his own
case; and he that has right on his side, having ordinarily but his own single
strength, hath not force enough to defend himself from injuries or punish
delinquents. To avoid these inconveniences which disorder men's properties
in the state of Nature, men unite into societies that they may have the united
strength of the whole society to secure and defend their properties, and may
have standing rules to bound it by which every one may know what is his. To
this end it is that men give up all their natural power to the society they
enter into, and the community put the legislative power into such hands as
they think fit, with this trust, that they shall be governed by declared laws,
or else their peace, quiet, and property will still be at the same uncertainty
as it was in the state of Nature.
John Locke 137. Absolute
arbitrary power, or governing without settled standing laws, can neither
of them consist with the ends of society and government, which men would
not quit the freedom of the state of Nature for, and tie themselves up under,
were it not to preserve their lives, liberties, and fortunes, and by stated
rules of right and property to secure their peace and quiet. It cannot be
supposed that they should intend, had they a power so to do, to give any
one or more an absolute arbitrary power over their persons and estates, and
put a force into the magistrate's hand to execute his unlimited will arbitrarily
upon them; this were to put themselves into a worse condition than the state
of Nature, wherein they had a liberty to defend their right against the injuries
of others, and were upon equal terms of force to maintain it, whether invaded
by a single man or many in combination. Whereas by supposing they have given
up themselves to the absolute arbitrary power and will of a legislator, they
have disarmed themselves, and armed him to make a prey of them when he pleases;
he being in a much worse condition that is exposed to the arbitrary power
of one man who has the command of a hundred thousand than he that is exposed
to the arbitrary power of a hundred thousand single men, nobody being secure,
that his will who has such a command is better than that of other men, though
his force be a hundred thousand times stronger. And, therefore, whatever
form the commonwealth is under, the ruling power ought to govern by declared
and received laws, and not by extemporary dictates and undetermined resolutions,
for then mankind will be in a far worse condition than in the state of Nature
if they shall have armed one or a few men with the joint power of a multitude,
to force them to obey at pleasure the exorbitant and unlimited decrees of
their sudden thoughts, or unrestrained, and till that moment, unknown wills,
without having any measures set down which may guide and justify their actions.
For all the power the government has, being only for the good of the society,
as it ought not to be arbitrary and at pleasure, so it ought to be exercised
by established and promulgated laws, that both the people may know their
duty, and be safe and secure within the limits of the law, and the rulers,
too, kept within their due bounds, and not be tempted by the power they have
in their hands to employ it to purposes, and by such measures as they would
not have known, and own not willingly.
John Locke 138. Thirdly, the
supreme power cannot take from any man any part of his property without his
own consent. (APP Note: See these exact words
in the Rights of the Colonists) For the preservation of property
being the end of government, and that for which men enter into society, it
necessarily supposes and requires that the people should have property, without
which they must be supposed to lose that by entering into society which
was the end for which they entered into it; too gross an absurdity for any
man to own. Men, therefore, in society having property, they have such a
right to the goods, which by the law of the community are theirs, that nobody
hath a right to take them, or any part of them, from them without their
own consent; without this they have no property at all. For I have truly
no property in that which another can by right take from me when he pleases
against my consent. Hence it is a mistake to think that the supreme or legislative
power of any commonwealth can do what it will, and dispose of the estates
of the subject arbitrarily, or take any part of them at pleasure. This is
not much to be feared in governments where the legislative consists wholly
or in part in assemblies which are variable, whose members upon the dissolution
of the assembly are subjects under the common laws of their country, equally
with the rest. But in governments where the legislative is in one lasting
assembly, always in being, or in one man as in absolute monarchies, there
is danger still, that they will think themselves to have a distinct interest
from the rest of the community, and so will be apt to increase their own
riches and power by taking what they think fit from the people. For a man's
property is not at all secure, though there be good and equitable laws to
set the bounds of it between him and his fellow-subjects, if he who commands
those subjects have power to take from any private man what part he pleases
of his property, and use and dispose of it as he thinks good.
John Locke 139. But government, into whosesoever
hands it is put, being as I have before shown, entrusted with this condition,
and for this end, that men might have and secure
their properties, the prince or senate, however
it may have power to make laws for the regulating of property between the
subjects one amongst another, yet can never have a power
to take to themselves the whole, or any part of the subjects' property, without
their own consent; for this would be in effect to leave them no property
at all. And to let us see that even absolute
power, where it is necessary, is not arbitrary by being absolute, but is
still limited by that reason and confined to those ends which required it
in some cases to be absolute, we need look no farther than the common practice
of martial discipline. For the preservation of the army, and in it of the
whole commonwealth, requires an absolute obedience to the command of every
superior officer, and it is justly death to disobey or dispute the most dangerous
or unreasonable of them; but yet we see that neither the sergeant that could
command a soldier to march up to the mouth of a cannon, or stand in a breach
where he is almost sure to perish, can command that soldier to give him one
penny of his money; nor the general that can condemn him to death for deserting
his post, or not obeying the most desperate orders, cannot yet with all
his absolute power of life and death dispose of one farthing of that soldier's
estate, or seize one jot of his goods; whom yet he can command anything,
and hang for the least disobedience. Because such a blind obedience is necessary
to that end for which the commander has his power -- viz., the preservation
of the rest, but the disposing of his goods has nothing to do with it.
John Locke 140. It is true governments
cannot be supported without great charge, and it is fit every one who enjoys
his share of the protection should pay out of his estate his proportion for
the maintenance of it. But still it must be with his own consent --
i.e., the consent of the majority, giving it either by themselves or their
representatives chosen by them; for if any one shall claim a power to lay
and levy taxes on the people by his own authority, and without such "consent
of the people", he thereby "invades the fundamental law
of property", and "subverts the end of government". For what property
have I in that which another may by right take when he
pleases to himself?
John Locke 141. Fourthly. The legislative cannot
transfer the power of making laws to any other hands, for it being but a
delegated power from the people,
they who have it cannot pass it over to others. (APP Note: The United Nations Has
No Powers because the United States having limited delegated powers cannot
abrogate new powers nor transfer powers, not existing or contrary to the
peoples rights, of the united states, to others) The people alone
can appoint the form of the commonwealth, which is by constituting the legislative,
and appointing in whose hands that shall be. And when the people have said,
"We will submit, and be governed by laws made by such men, and in such forms,"
nobody else can say other men shall make laws for them; nor can they be bound
by any laws but such as are enacted by those whom they have chosen and authorized
to make laws for them.
John Locke 142. These are the
"bounds" which the "trust" that is put in them by the society and the law
of God and Nature have set to the legislative power of every commonwealth,
in all forms of government.
First: They are to govern by
promulgated established laws, not to be varied in particular cases,
but to have one rule for rich and poor,
for the favourite at Court, and the countryman at plough.
(APP Note: See these exact words
in the Rights of the Colonists)
Secondly: These laws also ought
to be designed for no other end ultimately but the good of the people.
Thirdly: They must not raise taxes on the property
of the people without the consent of the
people given by themselves or their deputies.
And this properly concerns only
such governments where the legislative is always in being,
or at least where the people have not reserved any part of the legislative
to deputies, to be from time to time chosen by themselves.
Fourthly: Legislative neither must nor can transfer
the power of making laws
to anybody else, or place it anywhere but where the
people have.
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